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The Next Winter Storm

Good Saturday morning bloggers,

Overnight there was a clear sky, light wind and a fresh 8-13″ snowpack.  This is ideal conditions for radiational cooling.  At 7 AM KCI dropped to 2° with a wind chill of -12°!  This is the coldest morning of the last two winters!

We will see full sunshine today and this should get temperatures close to 30°, allowing for some melting.  So, windshield washer fluid will be a necessity.  See MAP #1

MAP #1: SATURDAY AT 3 PM

WINDSHIELD WASHER FLUID IS NEEDED!

WINDSHIELD WASHER FLUID IS NEEDED!

 Sunday will be a dry day with highs in the 30s.  There is quite an extensive snow field across the plains.  So, this may keep temperatures lower.  See MAP #2

MAP #2: SUNDAY AT NOON

 A BIT OF A THAW SUNDAY

A BIT OF A THAW SUNDAY

 If you notice, on the map above snow is breaking out Sunday across eastern Colorado and western Nebraska, the storm is approaching.  Now, lets talk about this next winter storm.  The heavy snow on Thursday was caused by warm/moist air trying to replace the cold air in a rapid way.  This caused heavy precipitation to break out, even though the main storm system tracked to our northwest.  This is a different situation confronting us Monday-Tuesday.  The snow from this system will be caused by being in the comma head.  This is found in the northwest quadrant of the main upper low.  I have lived here my whole life and for Kansas City to have the heaviest snow from a system like this, the main upper low needs to track near Harrison, Arkansas.  Well,, based on the latest data it is rather close, just south.  See MAP #3

MAP #3: UPPER LOW POSITION MIDNIGHT MONDAY NIGHT

STRONG UPPER LOW NEAR HARRISON, AR

STRONG UPPER LOW NEAR HARRISON, AR

Here is the latest thinking on the time line.

SUNDAY NIGHT: Dry with a thickening overcast and lows in the upper 20s.  See MAP #4

MAP #4: Monday morning at 330 AM

T-STORMS AND SNOW IN KANSAS

By 6 AM Monday the thunderstorms will change to heavy snow.  It is still dry in KC, so the Monday morning rush hour should be dry.  See MAP #5.

MAP #5: 6 AM MONDAY.  The question we will try to answer this weekend, is will the heavy snow target our area or head south?  This what the new data will be all about this weekend.  Regardless, of the track we will likely see snow accumulation from this storm.  The new 12z NAM suggests the precipitation may start as a freezing rain/snow mix.  Something to watch.

WILL THE HEAVY SNOW TARGET KC?

WILL THE HEAVY SNOW TARGET KC?

Have a great weekend and watch for “Black Ice” and have plenty of windshield washer fluid on hand.

Jeff Penner

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144 comments to The Next Winter Storm

  • Skylar

    New NAM snowfall:

    “http://www.instantweathermaps.com/NAM-php/showmap-conussfc.php?run=2013022312&time=PER&var=ASNOWI&hour=072″

    • Skylar

      Actually here’s the final map. Shows 8-12″ for KC with 12-14″ on the NE side of town. That’s about 3 feet in central Kansas! On top of nearly 2 feet from the last storm, that would be crazy for them.

      “http://www.instantweathermaps.com/NAM-php/showmap-conussfc.php?run=2013022312&time=PER&var=ASNOWI&hour=075″

      • StormyWX

        Regardless, that’s still a TON OF SNOW for our are and so far all of the models have been in line and agreement for yet another significant snowstorm here.

        But this IS the weather and the Midwest we’re talking about, so we’ll still have to wait and see.

  • weatherkcmo

    Not as impressive as the GFS but still pretty good.

  • Ladybug

    I keep having problems viewing the blog and have to refresh several times before the page loads. I keep getting the message “Error establishing a database connection.”

  • HeatMiser

    Awesome…and with winds mabye a blizzard or close to it. The winds would cause substantial drifting and make an 8-12 incher seem even deeper.

  • kellyinkc

    problems here too. May have to spend the night at work. That is impressive back to back mega storms

  • AFPILOTWXJUNKIE

    Fix the BLog …. iT guys are slacking.

  • HeatMiser

    me too…makes me want to put my mouse through my tv…common KSHB..get yer IT s*** together

  • HeatMiser

    Dear Old Man Winter,

    THANK YOU SIR, MAY I HAVE ANOTHER!!!!

    Sincerely Yours,

    HeatMiser

  • AFPILOTWXJUNKIE

    “http://www.instantweathermaps.com/GFS-php/showmap-conussfc.php?run=2013022312&time=PER&var=ASNOWI&hour=075″

    GFS nails us

  • weatherkcmo

    The blog nerds to be fixed. Ahh! Come on.

  • weather

    PLEASE FIX THE BLOG. COME ON MAN. GET A BETTER BIGGER SERVER OR BETTER IT PEOPLE.

    I wouldn’t promote the blog on the home page until it’s fixed. took FOREVER to just log in.

  • zimbokc

    If the site’s having problems on Saturday morning dealing with traffic imagine what will happen tomorrow night and Monday morning!

  • smiley10

    So based on the comments so far, even if we’re not in the heaviest snowfall we’ll still see 8 inches or more? Is that right? If so….awesome!!

  • Freeze Miser

    Good grief…the blog is clunky today.

    A Kansas City radio station is saying the weather is coming in Sunday night into Monday morning. It’s really coming in Monday later in the day isn’t it?

    My wife had a dream last night that at that school we both teach at we had to stay with the kids overnight on Monday due to the busses not being able to make their way to take the kids home. Let’s hope she is not clairvoyant!

  • HeatMiser

    12 inches

  • HeatMiser

    Brand new entry on Accuweather.com – Blizzard is coming folks!:

    Blizzard for Oklahoma City, Wichita, Kansas City Monday
    Brian Edwards
    By Brian Edwards, Meteorologist
    February 23, 2013; 10:07 AM

    Another significant snowstorm will affect cities and towns from the Plains to the Great Lakes early next week, producing blizzard conditions from Oklahoma through Missouri.

    This blizzard is following a storm which just dumped a whopping 14.2 inches of snow on Wichita and 11.0 inches on Kansas City.

    Snow will quickly increase in intensity on Monday with snowfall rates of 2 inches per hour occurring from Enid, Okla., through Wichita and Topeka, Kan, and even to near Kansas City, Mo., by the end of the day.

    As this storm strengthens, blizzard conditions will develop Monday as well along a corridor from Oklahoma City through Kansas City.

    Wind gusts to 50 mph will create dangerous travel conditions along Interstates 70, 35, and 44 with significant blowing and drifting along with near zero visibility.

    Blizzard conditions will expand north and eastward into Monday night through much of northern and central Missouri along with northeastern Oklahoma.

    The heaviest snowfall accumulations which will approach a foot will fall along a corridor from north-central Oklahoma through much of central and eastern Kansas and northern Missouri.

    This zone of heaviest snow includes the cities of Wichita, Topeka, and Kansas City.

  • Kole Christian

    This is impossible. Kansas City never gets this much awesome weather!

  • HeatMiser

    To dream the impossible dream
    To fight the unbeatable foe
    To bear with unbearable sorrow…cough, cough, oops, sorry…got carried away, ahem.

  • Skylar

    There’s also a chance for some light accumulations from another storm on Wednesday. This is special people. KC doesn’t often have a deep snowpack going into March. :)

  • heavysnow

    The computer models act like they know I live in St Louis suburbs. No way St Louis doesn’t get snow with the track of the storm shown by the models.

  • rkcal

    Timing on this is critical. Schools will not want to be shut down for three days in a row.

    • HeatMiser

      Sounds like they’ll definitely close, whether it’s four days in a row, or whether they stay open part or all of Monday and then shut down Tuesday and Wednesday.

  • kcweatherGEEK

    How ice ages start? I suppose it is possible?

  • HeatMiser

    Accuweather is calling for a full fledged blizzard for KC and Topeka. A foot of snow, white out conditions at times, wind gusts to 50 mph. This was over an hour ago, I’m a little surprised that Lezak or Penner isn’t all over this on this blog.

  • Lilydale

    HeatMiser and others, you are hilarious! Yes, fix the server…I need my fix to read all the entries and maps! Gary – I wasn’t for sure we would hit the mark this last part of Feb., but you nailed it! When do we see the happy dance? Time to stretch!

  • sticks435

    Weather Channel is saying possible freezing rain/mix Monday during the day and then changing to heavy snow overnight and most of the day Tuesday, calling for 6-12 and maybe more.

    http://www.weather.com/video/winter-storm-rocky-heads-east-34505

    Also, NWS just put out this Special Weather Statement.

    A WINTER STORM SYSTEM WILL LIFT INTO THE AREA ON SUNDAY… BRINGING ACCUMULATING SNOW TO THE REGION FROM LATE SUNDAY EVENING THROUGH TUESDAY AFTERNOON. SNOWFALL TOTALS OF 5 TO 10 INCHES ARE POSSIBLE ACROSS NORTHEAST KANSAS… NORTHERN… AND CENTRAL MISSOURI. BLOWING SNOW MAY ALSO BE A CONCERN MONDAY NIGHT AND TUESDAY AS NORTHWEST WINDS GUST UP TO 30 MPH. WHILE EXACT SNOW AMOUNTS REMAIN SOMEWHAT UNCERTAIN… THE OVERALL PROBABILITY OF ACCUMULATING SNOW IS HIGH.

  • olathe-snowkid

    Is anyone worried about the freezing rain?? Looks like there might be some

    • Twistersis

      Well, yeah, ME…I immediately expressed alarm but HeatMiser told me not to worry! As a veteran of neighborhoods with above-ground power lines and transformers nearby, I’ll never forget the nights of crashing trees and darkness for days. Three dog nights brought us through until we shouted for joy when the lights (and heat!) returned, and we blessed the departing KCPL crews.

  • HeatMiser

    Weather channel now saying they expect big snows in NE KS and says snowstorm will “clobber” the area. Yes, they said it could start out as sleet or freezing rain, but that it will quickly change to snow. Not enough freezing rain to knock power out or anything like that. I’d be more worried about the “40-50mph” wind gusts with all that heavy wet snow on trees and power lines.

  • kellyinkc

    I just heard TWC too! Hold on! Get ready for Rocky!!!

  • kellyinkc

    Fix the servor please

  • smiley10

    I think this server is going to be toast by tomorrow if they don’t fix it.

  • MusicTeach

    This server business is ridiculous. The timing if this storm is worrisome being a teacher. Hopefully officials will think things through but I doubt they will, especially because the state testing window opens up on Monday.

  • HeatMiser

    Some say Rocky can’t beat what Q did to us. I beg to differ:

    Common Rocky, get up! You can do it, you can beat that punk! Wait, listen…I hear something in the wind…it’s…it’s coming from out west…I think the storm Rocky is saying something…what’s it say?…what’s it, shhhh…listen….”AAAAdddrriiaaannnnnnn!”

  • spaceotter

    They need to take the server down and start restarting nodes. The traffic the last several days has overwhelmed it.

  • kellyinkc

    How often does the NWS update? expecting a WSW for us soon

  • fire508

    Cone on IT people. The servers keep crashing. Better fix it BEFORE tomorrow when this place is REALLY going to pick up speed….

  • weatherkcmo

    They’ll have another one up later in the afternoon.

  • sticks435

    Winter storm watch for Topeka area now. Here is the link to TWC talking about Rocky around KC area:

    http://www.weather.com/video/winter-storm-rocky-heads-east-34505

    Also, NWS just put out this Special Weather Statement.

    A WINTER STORM SYSTEM WILL LIFT INTO THE AREA ON SUNDAY… BRINGING ACCUMULATING SNOW TO THE REGION FROM LATE SUNDAY EVENING THROUGH TUESDAY AFTERNOON. SNOWFALL TOTALS OF 5 TO 10 INCHES ARE POSSIBLE ACROSS NORTHEAST KANSAS… NORTHERN… AND CENTRAL MISSOURI. BLOWING SNOW MAY ALSO BE A CONCERN MONDAY NIGHT AND TUESDAY AS NORTHWEST WINDS GUST UP TO 30 MPH. WHILE EXACT SNOW AMOUNTS REMAIN SOMEWHAT UNCERTAIN… THE OVERALL PROBABILITY OF ACCUMULATING SNOW IS HIGH.

  • weather

    Blog is toast.

  • weather

    Gary put the weights down and fix the blog!

  • Bill Smith

    We have been working with our blog hosting company this morning. The blog should stay up now, and we very much appreciate you patience. Thanks for the time and consideration this morning.

    Bill Smith, Dr. of New Media, 41 Action News

  • weatherkcmo

    Thank you very much!

  • spaceotter

    It’s the traffic I’m sure. 99% of the time thia blog doesn’t see this kind of load.

  • kellyinkc

    Thank you!!

  • Skylar

    This should allow more people to get comments through, too. EAX will be issuing a watch with the afternoon update.

    “Blowing snow will also be a concern Monday night into Tuesday on the northwest side of the surface low, but do not appear quite strong enough for blizzard criteria. With these types of snowfall rates and amounts, a winter storm watch will likely need to be issued today for much of the CWA.”

  • Freeze Miser

    Thanks, Bill.

  • weatherkcmo

    Still having MAJOR problems!

  • blue8091

    As I look down my street at the MOUNDS of snow everywhere, and then driving around and seeing even bigger mounds of snow elsewhere, all piled up waiting to melt someday, it struck me as sad that even though we are getting all of this winter precip, it’s really not going to help out drought wise so much – especially the farmers, who welcome it, but need so much more. Seems a shame we are not loading dump trucks with all the scooped up snow and dumping it in the ponds,lakes or even reach crops somehow. I read somewhere that we would need 10ft of snow to even get close to where we need to be…”snow recycling”!! Maybe if there is salt mixed in, this is a bad idea….

    • Skylar

      No, we’re not going to cure our drought with snow, but it also isn’t just about making up numerical deficits. It’s about getting the soil moistened again, and 12″ of snow slowly melting over several days is much better than 1″ of rain in a few hours. If we really do get another dumping on Monday, I bet people will start thinking about shipping it away. :)

    • mmack66

      How does dumping snow in a pond or a lake help alleviate drought conditions?

      Besides, any amount of moisture helps.

  • hushpook

    Some of you, like ‘weather’, need to take a chill pill. Geesh!

    The earth had weather long before blogs existed, and we survived. I think the IT guys have been as busy as the rest of the 41 staff this week. Patience is a virtue. Some on here aren’t very virtuous.

    That said….we have seen some very strong weather patterns over the last year plus. If the pattern for us is now stormy…and its cold….a series of storms fits the pattern.

  • craigmac

    I would doubt that this happens, but look at this:
    “grib2.com/gfs/CONUS_GFS0P5_SFC_12HR-ACCUM-SNOW_72HR.gif”

  • mattmaisch

    After falling out of line last night on the 00Z run, the ECMWF is back in line now with an outstanding track for heavy snow in KC. The 12Z run is just about perfect!

  • kcmetrostorms

    I deal with high traffic blogs as part of my job (especially ones with spiky traffic). I think if your hosting company were to use a plugin for WP called “W3 Total Cache” and maybe do some MySQL and Apache tuning you would probably be in good shape. If you really wanted to go all-out, maybe a CDN like Cloudflare would help too. With all of those in place, several thousand pageviews per hour shouldn’t be a problem even on modest hardware.

  • weather

    NWS will be issuing a WSWatch later otday and a warning later on sunday

  • weather

    NOPE STILL HAVING PROBLEMS.

  • smiley10

    Could we get a WSW for this storm?

  • weatherkcmo

    We will get one.

  • McCabe58

    Still getting the error almost every time :( hope this gets fixed before Monday morning. I still cannot believe we are in the bullseye 2 times in a row within days of each other. Wsw will most likely come out this evening or early tomorrow

    • We are working on the blog problems. We are setting records with page views. Hopefully the issues get resolved very soon.

      The new models are coming in and I will write an updated blog later this afteroon.

  • FlyenHigh

    can we get a forecast update? if this second storm happens its like Christmas Eve excitement all over again……bring it!

  • Skylar

    The new NAM is coming out right now and the GFS will in an hour.

  • MikeL

    Blog not working well at all with constant database connections errors…hope this is resolved soon…big storm a comin’…

  • sticks435

    Winter Storm Watch out now. 6-10 with locally higher amounts, winds up to 30MPH.

  • Skylar

    The new NAM gives pretty much the entire state of Kansas 10-20″ of snow

  • weather

    THE BLOG NEEDS HHHHHHHHHHHHHEEEEEEEEEEEEEELLLLLLLLLLLLPPPPPPPPPPPP
    HELP.

    I think it’s time to shut her down for a while and reset all servers. Make it available after 5 or something. Very frustrating.

  • AFPILOTWXJUNKIE

    New NAM is nailing us with forecast 12-14 inches

    • AFPILOTWXJUNKIE

      “http://www.instantweathermaps.com/NAM-php/showmap-conussfc.php?run=2013022318&time=PER&var=ASNOWI&hour=075″

      Make 12-18 inches

  • HeatMiser

    http://www.accuweather.com/en/weather-news/blizzard-for-oklahoma-city-wic/6725855

    Check out accuweather “travel stopping blizzard” maps for our area. KC and Topeka to get a foot of snow according to them.

  • Skylar

    The blog is really struggling to load right now but this snowfall map shows a small spot getting up to 20″ on the NE side of town.

    “http://www.instantweathermaps.com/NAM-php/showmap-conussfc.php?run=2013022318&time=PER&var=ASNOWI&hour=075″

  • HeatMiser

    Accuweather showing big blizzard for Topeka, KC, with a foot of snow and up to 50 mph wind gusts. They call it a a “travel stopping” blizzard. Blizzard gets cranked up for us Monday night. Very interested to see what Gary’s next blog update says.

  • HeatMiser

    Any predictions as to what Gary’s next blog will say?

  • Hockeynut69

    Does everyone remember what the persimmon seeds showed prior to winter? Guess they were right once again! 4 winters in a row.

  • Freeze Miser

    There must be some yet to be determined factors or Jeff/Gary would post an update.

  • HeatMiser

    Winter storm warning likely for the WSW area issued earlier to include Topeka and Lawrence this evening I think. Possible upgrade to a Blizzard Warning at some point.

  • Hockeynut69

    Heatmiser my guess is something about it being a complex system. However, in this case that is true. A few degrees and a shift here or there can change a lot of things.

  • HeatMiser

    Ah,hi icicle head! Gary said above he just got latest updates and will release blog this afternoon. You know, I normally prefer 80, 90, 100 degrees! But for this storm I’ll make an exception! Bring it on!

  • Morham

    I was one of the idiots who went and played at the Idiots’ Open at Smiley’s this morning. It was really fun. I got to as Brett Anthony a quick question about the models and he said the GFS might have a better handle on this storm. I love watching this blog and everyone’s input.

    Cheers!

  • AFPILOTWXJUNKIE

    These blog server issues are very frustrating.

  • Skylar

    The GFS is coming in now

  • Skylar

    Dodge City is under a blizzard watch now, maybe they will be expanding eastward?

  • StormyWX

    So much for the blog issue being fixed. While it’s annoying, I won’t get too mad as the last two weeks have been AMAZING in terms of interesting weather! The blog is simply overloaded with all of our excitement is all. :P

    I’m predicting yet another huge storm, perhaps worse than last time.

  • Skylar

    New GFS gives KC over 2 feet of snow at hour 63 with more to come on top

    • sticks435

      27 – 30 inches now south of the metro.

    • Skylar

      It has a narrow strip of 27-30″ over the southern metro

      “http://www.instantweathermaps.com/GFS-php/showmap-conussfc.php?run=2013022318&time=PER&var=ASNOWI&hour=066″

      • AFPILOTWXJUNKIE

        “http://www.instantweathermaps.com/GFS-php/showmap-conussfc.php?run=2013022318&time=PER&var=ASNOWI&hour=075″

        A large portion of metro southern half over 2 feet …northern half in the 12-18 range

    • mwnavyvet

      two feet!!!

      • Skylar

        So today’s models are indicating 1-3 feet of snow! Even if you take a small fraction of that we still get a lot. :)

  • HeatMiser

    Look for our WSW to be upgraded to a WSW or Blizzard Warning overnight.

  • HeatMiser

    Or a Blizzard Watch.

  • HeatMiser

    ERROR ESTABLISHING A DATABASE CONNECTION

    KSHB IT – in case nobody has told you, this is what we keep getting when we try to sign into blog or refresh…over and over for hours…extremely annoying.

    Thanks and please fix!

  • AFPILOTWXJUNKIE

    That’s it folks. The blog is unworkable for me. I will check back later tonight but this is soooooo frustrating.

  • Cacti51

    Oh my goodness. The city will shut down with that much snow! Bring it on!!! I feel like I am in a snow lovers dream and at any moment I am going to wake up.

  • Freeze Miser

    Oh great, when I usually have snow envy by the inch…..now I’m envious by feet of snow!

    I’m ready, being on your best Mother Nature.

  • Morham

    F5, F5, F5, F5, F5…. Hehehehe

  • mgsports

    Need to also figuer out how to keep Weather Plus Channel by adding 41.3. Also Cold Rain would turn Snow into Ice and that’s not good. If could go North then in like Severe Weather.

  • Skylar

    Gary said to go to the Weather2020 blog since it is working better for updates.

    “http://www.weather2020.com/blog/”

    • HeatMiser

      Yeah, he said storm still on perfect track for KC. Copious amounts of moisture to work with and high snow totals. Snow may not start til evening though, which means mabye some ice during day on Monday.

  • kidyoyo

    When are all the shenanigans scheduled to begin?

  • Emaw

    I thought we weren’t in one of the “hot spots”????

  • HeatMiser

    LoL…new cycle…new hot spots

  • HeatMiser

    Hmmm..blog seems to be working better, not perfect, but better.

  • HeatMiser

    @#$@#@%@#$@#!!!!

    As soon as I say that I have to hit F5 five or six times to send that message…Dang you Murphy and your stupid Law.

  • Freeze Miser

    Nice work, hot head, getting your picture to show up on the Weather 20/20 site.

  • Emaw

    Billy Joe says “let ‘er eat!”

  • Freeze Miser

    No snow map or mention of expected totals on the 5:00 PM news.

  • spaceotter

    I NEED UPDATES twitch twitch twitch…….error…..error….error..data base connection…error..error…

  • weatherkcmo

    Worried about those warmer temperatures. Looks like freezing rain will eat into our totals.

  • craigmac

    Doubting this system will be as accurate as the last one. Temps just a couple of degrees could be the difference in snow, ice, freezing rain and rain.

  • HeatMiser

    I’m thinking most of storm will still be snow..after dark and next day. Every station I’ve watched has said so. Accuweather says blizzard for whole area, including way down south in Wichita and into Oklahoma. I think we have a ton of snow coming.

  • networkguy

    LOL @ Craig and weatherkcmo when aren’t you guys doubting Garys forcast? All I’ve seen is you guys doubting. I think with Garys forcast on top of the NWS already putting us up with a WSW and predicting 8-12 in of snow this will be a big one, just like the last.

  • lsx347

    How much of a southern shift wiggle room do we have till the heavy stuff ends up way south

  • weatherkcmo

    I’m not doubting him I’m just sharing my thoughts. Gary is the only met I trust. Is there something wrong with expressing myself?

  • HeatMiser

    Updated at 4:00 pm – WSW for Lawrence:

    TOTAL SNOW AND ICE ACCUMULATIONS…THERE IS THE POTENTIAL FOR
    SNOWFALL AMOUNTS OF 10 TO 13 INCHES ESPECIALLY ALONG AND SOUTH
    OF INTERSTATE 70. SNOWFALL AMOUNTS WILL BE 6 TO 10 INCHES NORTH
    OF INTERSTATE 70. SOME AREAS COULD ALSO SEE AROUND ONE TENTH OF AN
    INCH OF ICE DUE TO FREEZING RAIN SUNDAY NIGHT.

    * WINDS…NORTHEAST WINDS OF 20 TO 30 MPH WITH GUSTS TO 35 MPH
    WILL BE COMMON ON MONDAY AND MONDAY NIGHT.

  • HeatMiser

    I’m developing carpal tunnel in my F5 finger.

  • HeatMiser

    Weather channel just pointed out again that KC will be getting “slammed” by Rocky. Accuweather just wrote that we are going to get “buried” Nat Weather Service at 4:00 updated WSW to say we could get a foot near I-70. Most models show huge amounts of snow. I think the evidence is mostly in. Gary is being a little more tentative than I usually see him…hopefully by tomorrow he will be more willing to make a more bold prediction.

  • lsx347

    How much threat of the storm going way south and being a bust?

  • stjoeattorney

    WELL WE WILL SEE AS IT APPEARS AS A SURFACE LOW SUNDAY AND WHERE IT IS IN RELATION TO FORECASTS.

    IF THERE IS 18-21 NCHES OF HEAVY WET SNOW OR SLEET, FRZNG RAIN ON THE OLD SNOW

    SERIOUS ””’ ROOF CAVE INS ARE LIKELY ””’

    THE INTERNATIONAL BUILDING CODES WERE NOT MEANT TO HOLD THESE LOADS UNLESS YOU HAVE A 12/12 PITCHED ROOF.

  • Morham

    Annnnnnnnnnnd we are all going to die. That’s it, I am spending all my money and going out with a bang! ;)